Sunday, October 5, 2008

FirefightersStory-Stigma/Feelings/Challenges

This writing should be a good education for all, I HOPE! I'm hoping that those who read this, whether you are like me, 1 in 5 and who suffer from a mental health illness, or have a family member that does, and are struggling with the many stigmas, feelings, fears such as I have, will just maybe have a better insight by what I am about to write here today. This is real, this is what I am feeling right now, and I am gripped in a terrifying fear of so many thoughts and emotions. I hope that for those of you who are sufferinng and struggling right now, you will see that YOU ARE NOT ALONE, and I HOPE you will somehow find a way to take a little bit of comfort in that. For those of you who know of or have a family member who is suffering, read on ,please,as this might, help you to understand just exactly what we who ARE the 1 in 5 fear, struggle with. It might also help you gain a little insight into the strange and scary ways that our minds sometimes grip us with fear, panic, confusion, and so many emotions that take over and run wild and rampant.
My heart is racing, and I'm running a million miles an hour inside as I write. I am terrified for what lies ahead for me in the days and weeks to follow. I am going to be doing something tomorrow that I BELIEVE IN, and I am not wavering in my solid convictions with regards to trying to help others, getting the messages out to the public that mental health illness is serious, and very real. People need to be educated, and we MUST talk openly and honestly instead of denying, or looking the other way in the hopes that if we do, the many all encompassing issues surrounding mental illness will disappear, or go away. Many do not realize the severity of the challenges that we face, and many others do not even realize just how close these issues might be to either themselves, or a loved one. They might be staring these issues right in the face and not even realize it, or understand it.
I do know though, that the challenge that is facing me, the fears and emotions are very real , raw,and terrifying. This is my reality, as is others who are like me, the other 1 in 5's.
When I was nearing the end of my treatment and therapy to help overcome the issues and challenges I had fought with for so long with PTSD, I realized that I had another "calling" in life. I had been given a gift, a new life and beginning, and a chance to turn the nightmare I had been living with for so long into a opportunity to help others. Nothing was going to stop or prevent me from doing so. I had been blessed with the opportunity to help others everytime I went to work and went out on a fire call. Now I was going to be able to help others such as myself, I hoped, by taking my experiences with suffering from a acute mental illness such as I had, and using the experiences and knowledge I had gained to help others.
So I started searching and waiting for an opportunity to allow me to accomplish this. Enter Mr Alfredsson. Here was my chance, because if he said it was okay to talk and not be ashamed, then I would have someone in my corner, so to speak, by my side.
I have been afforded the opportunity to help others with my writings, and chatting on this blog. Although people do know that I am a firefighter, and they do know my name, nobody but a select few know the person, the face that is behind these efforts of mine. I am anonymous, and have been for quite sometime. That's the way I like it, as I prefer to stay in the background, under the radar so to speak, because I am not looking for any recognition, I just have a desire to help others, and I am hoping that I have been able to do this "very quietly" "anonymously" because it's not about what I am, it's about the person that I am, and what I am trying to do for others.
I have shared my many struggles I and my loving family have faced, (there's lots more to share with everyonestill) but I have also been able to share my many triumphs, in the hopes of instilling these "feelings" of HOPE that I have, to others, as well as my sincerest and humble hope of helping and reassuring them also. I had NO HOPE before, but I do now, and I want others to know that there is HOPE for them also.
I had the honor of being asked to sit down yesterday with a lovely and caring lady by the name of Paula at the Ottawa Citizen and do an interview with her to try and explain a bit about my story, my mental illness and its challenges,and my desire to help others by coming forward, sharing with them through my writing, and how this has all come to fruition through the efforts of the many caring people at the Royal Ottawa Foundation, Mr Alfredsson, and numerous others too long to mention who are working tirelessly behind the scenes anonymously as I have been , because they too believe, and have been touched in one way or another by mental illness.
Along with the interview, I was asked if they could take pictures of me, and of course I readily accepted, though being very very shy it was hard for me. As I said, I prefer to "fly under the radar". This will be in mondays Ottawa Citizen, and I'm hoping I did okay, but am very nervous as obviously it was difficult, emotional, and I've obviously never talked this publically before. But, the message has to get out in order to help others.
As I was preparing to leave for the interview, and from there directly to work at the fire station for a night shift, my family asked me why I was, as I call it "wound for sound". You could peel me off the ceiling so to speak. I was anxious, scared, terrified, tearful, all rolled into one big storm of wild emotions. So I tried to explain to my wife and three girls just exactly what was going on in my little brain. What follows is how I tried to explain it to them, and my reasons why. Hope you understand, as it is somewhat shorter and paraphrased for length.
People need to know that mental illness is real, and if affects real people. So, my feelings and thoughts were that people needed to "see" a real person, me, Larry, and be able to put a face to the story of my mental illness that I write about, and hopefully this would help to make it clearer to all that we ARE real people, us 1 in 5, in need of real proper professional help. This way it might help everyone to understand better and to realize just how real this all is.
Now, I must wait and see what troubles will await me at work, but I am not optimistic at all I'm sorry to say. I have a feeling, and it is NOT good,as there's only one other firefighter that knows what I have been trying to do "anonymously, quietly behind the scenes and below the radar" in order to help others. I didn't want anyone to know because I am truly very scared with regards to the many unfortunate stigmas that people have, and I in my own way, deliberately decided that I would "avoid", which is very common with having PTSD , as we practice avoidance extremely well in order to not have to deal with it. Sometimes, old habits die hard though, and I make no apology's to anyone for this. This is still who I am. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do in order to survive for just a little while longer, in the hopes it will all go away.And yes I do know that it will never go away, without her(psychologists) help. My angel as I and my family refer to her.
So, I don't know what will become of me, nor what challenges I will have to fight now, though I have a very good idea, and can imagine. I have said to my family, and my psychologist, as she knows everything I do, she's my security blanket and helps to keep me going, that I do indeed have a calling, and they support me in this calling, because, "Sometimes when you hear the call, you have to answer that call, no matter what the consequences!"
This is also why she knows(my psychologist), that I will be sitting on my "park bench" that has my name on it, as did my hero General Romeo Dallaire, who had his own "park bench" with his name on it, who was the pioneer spokesperson and example for me with regards to PTSD and my mental illness, whom unfortunately knew what the right thing to do for his soldiers was, though by battling on for what he believed in, unfortunately relapsed, and sat on his "park bench", and as do I with regards to helping others, and my fellow firefighters, and I know she (my angel, psychologist)will find me, and we'll talk quietly, and get ready to push the snowball up the mountain again.
Thank you for allowing me to write and express my thoughts about this challenge, but I assure you that I have no regrets, because in the end it will help others. Mission accomplished, so to speak.
Larry

71 comments:

Anonymous said...

You are extremely Brave Larry and I think it is great that you have stepped out of your comfort zone to help others such as myself.
Being at the beginning of all this and certainly no where near where you are, I have and am still learning things I have no idea about.
I am dealing with the loneliness of not wanting to even admit to myself or anyone else that this is what is happening. Loss of Hope of ever feeling at peace, and of course the many feelings you have brought up such as never feeling you can rest, fear, panic and a ton of confusion.
I will be getting the paper tomorrow and take a quiet time in the evening to read. On one funny note though, I will know what you look like before Wednesday

Anonymous said...

Larry - I am so relieved you have written about your fears reagarding the loss of anonymity for you in the coming week. I'm feeling very anxious about tomorrow (like you are) and hope that we can be a support to each other. For what it's worth, there are LOTS of people out there who admire you, including me.

Anonymous said...

Yes you will, so when you see me at the meeting on wednesday night at OSSIS we can wait for each other outside, group hug, and in we will go together and help you feel at home. larry

Anonymous said...

HiRachel,I'll be looking for you tomorrow morning you can count on it, and we can stick close for support, and hold each other up, as I know I'm going to be nervous as heck, but it'll be worth it larry

Anonymous said...

how are you doing with the extra stress that this has put on you.

Anonymous said...

Do you mind if we meet Wed at the place that our mutual friend had set up free parking instead of at the door at 6:30. Did you get his email to know where that was.
I think meeting you and everyone all at once just might be to much.
I am already making every excuse under the book to not go. You know how that goes. Not good I know

Anonymous said...

All I can say Rachel and Larry is that you have tremedous courage for what you are doing for others.

I only recently admitted to myself that I am one in five and have problems in telling others for fear of this stigma.

I can give you an example of what happened to me at work recently. Last year I was in very bad shape, suicidal thoughts and meds not working. I finally begged my doctor to send me to a psychiatrist and he did. I even got up the nerve to tell my immediate supervisor about it as I had to take time off work to see the PDOC frequently. He was supportive however recently he related that I had been red flagged by upper management for taking too many sick days last year and they are "watching me". I have not been able to talk to my supervisor about it since as I was upset.. So I know that there is alot of work to do. I have legimate reasons sometimes for taking time off, I do not abuse sick leave and I am still trying to keep working and be a productive member of society.

Anyway.. I will look forward to reading about you again.

Melba1

Anonymous said...

I'd love to meet early as it would make things alot easier. The only email I got was about going to the rear of the RO, all way around to the back, and your friend would be there about 6 40 by the door to meet everyone. BUT I got some inside info with regards to parking.The parking on the road that goes all around the hospital is free after 4pm, so I just parked right on that road right by the door. If you'd like, how about meeting on that road by the door, but real early so we can chat and take a short walk or something like that.I can tell you what I'm driving, you cannot miss it,and of course by tomorrow you'll know what I sort of look like from the paper?? Maybe between 6 and 615 or??? if you'd like, BUT pls tell me if this would be easier for you to meet your friend and comrades without me there and that added stress its putting you under. larry

Anonymous said...

Hi Melba1, its larry, and ya this is all rolled into the stigmatisms, fears,misunderstandings etc. but you MUST take care of yourself first and foremost,ya easy for me to say as you mention the 'red flag' and I understand, but please put yourself first, and please join in the chats here when you like so we can all help each other and support one another. larry

Anonymous said...

The place that is free is the Robert Smart Centre parking. I can meet you at 6pm if that works for you. I don't actually know the door as I have never been there.

Anonymous said...

I never sugar coat, I would tell you if I felt uncomfortable with you there.

Anonymous said...

Ya know what I have determined right now. I really hate weekends. To much time on my hands or should I say to much time for my brain.

Anonymous said...

I can meet you there in that parking lot at 6 pm, and you can't miss my truck its a black suburban,you cannot miss it.This okay with you, and then I'll show you where the door is as I got lost last time also. larry

Anonymous said...

That sounds good. Just excuse my quiet demeanor as this is a huge step for me. Not a good place now and can't seem to get through it on my own

Anonymous said...

Also, you might want to listen to CFRA radio in the morning shortly after 7 a.m. as there's a big kickoff breakfast for champions of mental health that I'll be at and will be interviewed at about 7 05 or so. There's about 400 peole going and myself and others who have come forward will be there together.I get to go up onstage, make a "speech" to everyone, so its a HUGE day,so I'll check in again about 8 p.m. as I gotta eat now, and I'm bagged from workin nights, no sleep 2day, and I gotta be at the civic centre tomorrow by 6 30 a.m. larry

Anonymous said...

If you don't mind i need to skip chatting tonight. Not a great space right now for me. I need to see our mutual friend as this is much to difficult on my own. good luck tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Hi Melba1. thank you for saying that Larry and I have courage...it doesn't really feel like that - i'm terrified! mostly it's just a coping mechanism. i often suffer from suicidal thoughts and the idea of helping others in a similar situation is the only thing that can inspire me to keep fighting this. just know that you're not alone!!

Anonymous said...

Yes, please remember that, WE ARE NOT ALONE and together we will support each other to allow us to keep going and helping. But you girls must remember to put yourselves first now, care for yourself. larry

Anonymous said...

You take care of yourself pease, and we'll meet on wednesday, please try to keep this in mind and HOPE it will put a smile on your face and something to look forward to for you,as I am looking forward to meeting you also. The meeting with your fellow comrades wil be great for you, they're family remember. larry

Anonymous said...

Good luck Larry; Like you many fire fighters are struggling with the stress off fire fighting and the horrors that we are presented with. Hopefully yyou are well on your way to recovery or at least learning what is happening to you. So ooften we are not aware of stress and how we react to it. The OVCISDT worked for years very successfully with Ottawa Fire Fighters both with debreifing and professional help. This has dropped off since amalgamation but there are people working towards helping those in need. It appears that yyou are on the road back and that is such a good sign. I wish you and yours all the best.

Anonymous said...

I cut out the article Larry so I remember the beginning of my journey. It will remind methere is a light at the end of this dark tunnel. How did it go this morning?

Anonymous said...

Larry,
I listened to your story today on CBC and was moved to tears Your courage to come forward and speak about such a personal issue publicly is something to be proud of. The fact that the fire that had such an impact on many Ottawa citizens had such an impact on you shows that you are a warm, compassionate, human being. I know that Alfie coming forward helped you and I can tell you that you coming forward is going to help others. Bravo to you!

Anonymous said...

Thx Donna, that means the world to me, and I'm really HOPING that this will help others, thats what I want to do, but I have to say that right now I am in such a scary place, feeling very overwhelmed with emotions, just really scared as it's really starting to hit home now, as the article and picture in the citizen about me today, plus on the 6p.m. cjoh news, and the cbc radio this afternoon, well,overwhelming, but I know it's for a great cause to help others. larry

Anonymous said...

Thats a great idea cutting it out of the paper, and I love how you say that there IS light at the end of the tunnel, because there is, and I won't let you forget it. I'll check back at 8 p.m. to see if you're doing okay. larry

Anonymous said...

Hi Larry. I am here. Still not in that great space though unfortunately. How are you doing after today? I saw you on the tv and I think what you are doing is great. It is so important that more people know what this is all about.
People such as myself who are having toruble admitting that it is ok to have this are learning from you.

Anonymous said...

I am still struggling to keep my head above water and keep going hour to hour. When I sleep I can't shut my brain down and during the day I am having to be happy while tortured inside.

Anonymous said...

Well, the days been a success for the cause of trying to raise awareness and hopefully allow others to know it's okay to say that they need/want help, and they are NOT ALONE. Thats what its all about. I HOPE that it WILL HELP OTHERS, thats what matters to me!larry

Anonymous said...

I know how difficult it is for you, and know about the ups downs.I know you're exhausted, but what about doing something for YOU, such as ,and obviously NOT NOW, but taking those walks in the woods,running,something you enjoy,and I know that is difficult because I know that I didn't enjoy anything, but you seemed to like the walk in woods outdoors thing which is great for you?

Anonymous said...

I am kinda in the spot of the leather green chair. I know you will relate to that when I say that.

Anonymous said...

I'm really glad that you and others ARE learning, and AM REALLY HOPING that somehow you are taking some reassurances from me to help you to keep going, staying strong deep inside.larry

Anonymous said...

I do understand what you are saying though and agree that that is what I need to do.

Anonymous said...

Oh Ya I know, not in a good place tonight. OK, what about OSSIS, or our mutual friend?? Or, how about thinking of how much I AM looking forward to meeting you? We really need to get you started with our friend, but if this isn't ging through yet, maybe your friend can help, somehow?

Anonymous said...

I know I keep saying this, but, this is why if you can somehow allow/share some of this with hubby, he would be able to giv you a big hug and reassurances and I understand its difficult, but, please please consider this, IT WILL HELP larry

Anonymous said...

I am seeing our mutual friend on Wed. Yes I definitely need to start with her.
I am also looking forward to meeting you on Wed.

Anonymous said...

Well, this is great news then, really it is.She will get working with you then, and I know that when I started, as scared and hard etc that it was, inside of me I had a feeling of relief, she gives you that feeling of, OK I'm in a good place and she's going to help me because she cares. It meant the world to me. larry

Anonymous said...

Not in a place to talk to my hubby right now. I am going to sign off now. I work 7am to midnight tomorrow. So I will plan to meet you at 6 on Wed. You have helped so many people today Larry. Raised the awareness of what everyone needs to know more about.

Anonymous said...

AND I'm also looking forward to finally meeting you as we have so much in common. larry

Anonymous said...

OK Pls take care of yourself, get some rest and we'll see you on wed 6 p m larry

Anonymous said...

including our age

Anonymous said...

Hi Larry:
Read the Citizen article and I want to say that it really hit home about what you are trying to do. Great job.

The paper was in our coffee room at work today and a number of people commented about how this issue mental illness affects everyone. There was one lady who thought otherwise- but I didn't take notice of her, she is always ranting.
I was able to speak about how stigma affects everyone one of us.
I wish somehow that I could have told them that I was one in five as well but it was not the time.
A little step at a time.

Thanks Larry

Take care

Melba

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much Melba,baby steps remember, all in good time.First though, you MUST please take of yourself.You are talking to me now, and I'm 1 in 5, and you told me that you're 1 in 5, so I'm thinking that you've just made a brave step!Give yourself some credit please,I appreciate and think that you're couragous for doing this.Try thinking of it as a little step, and all the little steps WILL add up to a big step!You spoke up and started the discussion about how the stigma etc. so in my books this is great because you pointed this out to others,and this will HOPEfully lead to them thinking about it,and I'd be willing to bet that they in turn will say something to others, and that's how the message IS and WILL get out.It all starts somewhere, and without realizing it, you just got the ball rolling where you are!Great job.THIS IS how we can change things, baby steps a little at a time.Thanks for the 'great job' as it means so much to me knowing that I am able to help others.Don't be a stranger ok,pls take care larry

Anonymous said...

Hey Larry Just to let you know that I did not chicken out about meeting you tomorrow.
Will only commit right now to that step. Have to see how I feel about the meeting after that. You know how that goes.

Anonymous said...

No worries ok, BUT AGAIN I MUST ask you, if it would be easier or maybe better if you went to meeting for YOU, as we MUST take care of YOU first above all else!!If this means waiting to meet me, thats ok because I'm not going anywhere, and YOU ARE THE PRIORITY IN ALL OF THIS! larry

Anonymous said...

Maybe can you call your friend at OSSIS and also speak to our mutual friend about the best course of action for YOU.Again, I will ALWAYS put YOU first, and I'm not the dr. here, so I want what's right for your benefit first, and I HOPE you understand this, thats why I'm suggesting this strongly to you please. larry

Anonymous said...

Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, but I did not get in until one this morning and exhaustion was not allowing me to put my thoughts together. I understand where you are coming from and will definitely talk to our mutual friend today.
I do remember at the start of this when I was avoiding everything that I should of been doing, our mutual friend saying if I felt I needed peer support first, she would contact you to see if you would not mind meeting with me. I did not choose that because I know I need our mutual friends help. I have had no choice but to admit that to myself.

As for the meeting this evening, I am planning to attend it. I will however be talking to our mutual friend to make sure that it is a step I should make right now. I am afraid to make everything worse. So if you are ok with tonight I will still meet you at the time we said.

Anonymous said...

ABSOLUTELY and I am so glad to hear your thinking reasoning etc. because as I said, I just want whats best for you obviously, and our mutual friend in my books is ALWAYS ALWAYS right in these regards.I was scared that if we didn't do this in the right order thats is right for YOU, well as I said YOU are the priority.I'm not going anywhere, I'm here for you ALL the way through, AND BEYOND!! Okay my friend.I know you will get ALOT of reassurance comfort etc. from our mutual friend with your struggles and where you are in this journey.I'll be out this morning doing more 'awareness' stuff with regards to all that has happened in the last few days, but will check back in this afternoon for a message from you.I'll wait for your confirmation about meeting tonight at 6 before meeting,take care of yourself always ok, larry

Anonymous said...

Hi Larry Just got back from work. Spoke to our mutual friend. I will meet you at the same time we spoke. As for the meeting, she gave me a little more info that made me feel more comfortable, but I will see how I feel when I get there.

Anonymous said...

Perfect, and you will feel fine, you can talk to your mutual friend about how you feel regarding the meeting, cu after larry

Anonymous said...

Thanks Larry for coming and supporting me at the meeting. It is one of the hardest things I have done in a long time. It was like my friend sitting beside me checking in. Your a very special person.

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE THE BRAVE ONE! I AM SO VERY PROUD OF YOU and remember, you ARE the one who had the inner courage, and NEVER EVER forget that ok. Take this huhuge success that you have accomplished, and pull it out of your pocket so to speak EVERYDAY and use that to remember that you ARE making headway, although difficult, but you are on your way on this journey of HOPE as I call it! We will all be with you, beside you, and as I said, I will help you in anyway I can, because I want to be with you at the end of the tunnel, when you begin your NEW LIFE! We'll do it together, ok. I'm PROUD of you. larry P.S. Thank you so much for saying I'm a special person, although I do find compliments VERY hard to accept, but know that I am thankful, and am blessed to be able to help you and others. larry

Anonymous said...

Larry,

What you are doing is monumental and after your talk at that place you refer to last night, I must say that it was an honor to sit at the same table and a very humbling experience once reading in further today. Your goal to help one person has been overcome by events proven by viture of the list of comments here and the way you impacted 10 people last night in a positive way. I hope to sit at the same table with you again.

Bill

Anonymous said...

I thank you so very much, and I so respect you and your comment regarding honor, humbling.I do not take compliments very easily at all, as I too am a very private, humble person, but I knew that being able to help others was a gift I had been given, and the writing which is no longer 'anonymous'as I had tried,wanted to do was overridden by the need that I felt was necessary to put a face to the whole big picture, so that all would know that yes, this is real, it is a fact of why we need more help etc. and this would allow others to hopefully ask or get help instead of living in what I refer to in my story as my journey to 'hell and back'.I haveonly JUST started to write, and will continue as I have alot more to say,storywise etc for others to hopefully learn from so they will know they are NOT ALONE. thx larry

Anonymous said...

I will be more than happy to have you beside me when I reach the light at the end of the tunnel. I just wish it was tomorrow and this was over. This is so tough and it is tearing me up inside. It was good to sit with others that laugh at the stupid things I found myself doing and not knowing why. I am at the beginning of all this and am sure I will learn from everyone. I just need to get myself to go again. It just may take me a year before I talk though.

Anonymous said...

Hi Larry

Having a difficult time .. feel like I am heading for a major depressive episode. I have seen my PDOC and she is changing my meds. Weening off Effexor over the next few weeks and going on Cymbalta. Not looking forward to this change.

Any suggestions on how to get through this.

Melba

Anonymous said...

To MELBA11 Lets start with talking, and I'll try in anyway possible to help you. It's a scary time/place for you, as I said I've been there, and I too have had my meds that I'm on tweaked, and tweaked etc. so I know how important it is to be carefully monitored but I'm sure she told you this. Please please remember though, I AM NOT A DR. This being said, I will try to talk to you,openly honestly with what I went through as it relates to where you might be right now, as in what you are feeling,experiencing etc. Would this interest you?I hope it will, but we really need to try to talk here so I can try to get a handle on your situation, IF you would feel comfortable though, NO PRESSURE, but I'll do anything to help you, you know that. larry

Anonymous said...

I'll keep checking to see if you're on till ten tonight, as I start my long shift in the morning and won't be back till 6p.m. fri after work.Working all the way through the long weekend till thurs a.m. ok larry

Anonymous said...

I am not looking for medical advice Larry just some practical advice.

I guess to start I have episodes before and was doing well for several months and then bang it began again.. not sleeping, overeating or not enough energy to cook, extreme anxiety, panic attacks and of course crying periods.
talking to others who have not been there is hard. sharing emotions is worse.
It is different this time around because I have been in therapy, now seeing a PDOC and on meds.

How do we function day to day.. that is my question.

Off topic a bit, but the time that recorded on our posts are way off. Is it just me or what?

Thanks Larry for all that you are doing.

Melba

Anonymous said...

We will get you through to the end of that tunnel, ok. I'll be by your side, as will the others as you saw last night.As for getting to the next meeting?I'll do the same as last night if you will let me?Meet early, talk more,and I'll be right beside you and we'll go in together again and I'll stay close to you so you'll be more comfortable? Sound okay? larry

Anonymous said...

How did you know I was here. Wish we had of exchanged email.
Spoke to our mutual friend today. Tough day yesterday

Anonymous said...

Absolutely with regads to medical advice,I just want to be sure everyone knows this,as its the proper thing to do for you and everyone. Ya, the time is off by 3 hrs for some reason don't know why?Lets get to you now and see what we can figure out here. But,not knowing your family situation,have you shared anything with your family,hubby,or??sorry I'm NOT trying to be too personal, it's just that the family IS important.Also,if not, do you have any support from others,as in groups,etc.

Anonymous said...

Call me please, I'm home now. larry

Anonymous said...

melba11 I am so grateful for your thanks, it means alot to me,and I appreciate it.I have to get some sleep/downtime as I gotta get up at 4 30 a.m. so I WILL check as soon as I get home from work fri about 6p.m. ok Keep your chin up,take care of YOU, and we'll talk and I'll do my best to help and reassure you, larry

Anonymous said...

did I get the address correct

Anonymous said...

Hi Larry

Not sure I can put into words how I am feeling these last few days. emptyness, numbness, overwhelming fear and sadness.

I called my old counsellor and she will begin seeing me again. thank god for that although I feel like I am a failure for not being able to do this on my own.

All for now.

Melba

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE!!! We who are the 1 in 5,who EACH SUFFER,with what we have as individuals, soon come to realize,with others help often, that we have so much in common.I know with PTSD, and other illnesses of the brain, we THINK we should be able to do it on our own, somehow, and when this doesn't happen, well,we often turn to thoughts of suicide, cutting,self mutilation and this diverts, or directs the pain away from the 'brain' and what we are feeling,going thru etc. and allows us to get a momentary piece of silence to enjoy ourselves from all the feelings/emotional turmoil we're experiencing. Great decision and all with regards to ur seeing someone!Please be safe, take care of yourself first,remember that. larry

Anonymous said...

Hi Melba,

i don't mean to butt in on your conversation with Larry but I read that you're about to change meds. I had to go off effexor about 2 years ago because it wasn't doing anything for me and i had a very difficult experience. Of course we're all different but my experience was a bit of a nightmare because the transition wasn't monitored closely enough by my Dr. The withdrawal symptoms of effexor made me MORE anxious, panicked, agoraphobic. I couldn't eat and when I did sleep i had nightmares. so now when i'm transitioning drugs i keep a little journal of moods/side effects (because i find it really hard to keep track of what's what - sometimes things i didn't know were drug related actually were). I take it one day at a time now because i know how much stress my body is under. i make sure to have lots of fruits on hand because often i don't feel like eating but i LOVE fruit. anyway, i don't know what other info you're looking for but let me know!

Anonymous said...

ALSO! when i'm getting off a drug i always research the withdrawal side-effects so that i know what to expect - this was not really the case the first time!!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rachel

Actually the withdrawal symptoms from Effexor have been incredible and I was warned about this. Anxiety yeh!!!! My PDOC is weening me off a week at a time, next Tuesday the lowest dose. Then in two weeks I go on Cymbalta along with continuing on Trazodone which does help my sleep but gives me a drug hangover during the day.
I keep thinking that this is temporary but I know for me that the depression and anxiety will be with me forever just more manageable I hope.

Melba

Larry Beattie said...

Good morning Larry,

when we first meet at group meeting I had no idea of your trauma or I didn't know you in any way, we joined the group on the same day and that is something we have in common.

I have read some of your blog, I can't muster the strenght to read the whole thing yet but from what I read Larry I'm proud of you and the progress you have made. I feel for you has I had similar trauma in my my Navy day's.

Many times during those years I have wondered what was wrong with me, I have tried on and off to get help and the answer I received many times over was "suck it up sailor that's part of your job and get on with it", I guess I'm a slow learner, but having friends like you sharing their feelings somehow helps me dealing with mine. The portion of dealing with feelings has always been a struggle for me and I never knew how to express the way I felt.

I also have a wife and kids that I'm sure would love to say the same as your wife and kids and that she has her husband back and that the kids have their dad back. I'm not there yet however, it's getting easier with time and time is on my side.

As I said keep up the good work my friend and I have so much admiration towards you I can only hope the dealing with my trauma or PTSD will bring me to a place in my life where I can say I have given my family their husband and dad back. It's a daily struggle for all of us as you know but we'll make it life is to goog.

Cheers,

The other Larry

Anonymous said...

Thankyou so much,your kind words are very very humbling and I admit extremely hard to hear, people such as yourself thanking me because I'm just trying to help others, and knowing that I am able to help is all that I need to hear, which brings me to tears just knowing. It feels so good. You WILL be able to do what you spoke of, I KNOW you CAN. We are all there to help you in anyway we can, never forget this.See you soon, larry

Anonymous said...

I understand what you mean when it comes to the stigma. I was diagnosed with Panic disorder in grade 8 and Clinical Depression last year in grade 10 and now I'm a grade 11 student. I dealt with the
Diseases, the treatments, teen pressures and the stigma from the media, my own family and myself. I still deal with the diseases and stigma but luckily to a lesser extent than it has been in the last 4 years. All the while I'm still a high school student but now I work to correct the stigma among the people around me and in the public. I will likely deal with the symptoms in one way or another whether it's mild or life threatening for the rest of my life and I have finally accepted that it's a part of who I am. It does become very difficult to deal with sometimes around certain people, exam and final projects time but I try my very best to deal with it in a positive way one day at a time. To conclude mental health is a part of my life as a sometimes cruel, very patient, humbling and absolutely powerful teacher that I'm now thankful that I have met and it's now within me.